[PHP-DEV][Voting] Add locale for case insensitive grapheme functions

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Hi, Internals

I have just started add locale for grapheme_* functions.

Voting end is 2025-07-15 00:00:00 GMT.

Regards
Yuya

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On Mon, 30 Jun 2025, youkidearitai wrote:

Hi, Internals

I have just started add locale for grapheme_* functions.
PHP: rfc:grapheme_add_locale_for_case_insensitive

Voting end is 2025-07-15 00:00:00 GMT.

Hi,

I have voted no for now, as I don't think the RFC explains a various
amount of situations:

- How are locale string handled that don't exist (exception? silently
  ignored?)
- What range of locales are allowed? Where would this list come from?
- How do fallbacks of locales work?
- Are locale variants handled?
- Is it really wise to use strings for locales?
- How are locale strenghts handled, such as the
  primary/secondary/tertiary modes of ICU — these influence the
  matchy-ness of characters.

For all these situations, there should also be tests, but that's an
implementation detail.

cheers,
Derick

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2025年6月30日(月) 18:49 Derick Rethans <derick@php.net>:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2025, youkidearitai wrote:

> Hi, Internals
>
> I have just started add locale for grapheme_* functions.
> PHP: rfc:grapheme_add_locale_for_case_insensitive
>
> Voting end is 2025-07-15 00:00:00 GMT.

Hi,

I have voted no for now, as I don't think the RFC explains a various
amount of situations:

- How are locale string handled that don't exist (exception? silently
  ignored?)
- What range of locales are allowed? Where would this list come from?
- How do fallbacks of locales work?
- Are locale variants handled?
- Is it really wise to use strings for locales?
- How are locale strenghts handled, such as the
  primary/secondary/tertiary modes of ICU — these influence the
  matchy-ness of characters.

For all these situations, there should also be tests, but that's an
implementation detail.

cheers,
Derick

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Hi, Derick and Internals

Thanks for feedback.
I got it.

However, Why didn't you take part in the under discussion phase?
I would like to improve the compatibility of PHP's Unicode.

Am I not eligible to participate?
I feel giant walls to Internals.from east asia.

Regards
Yuya

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2025年6月30日(月) 19:02 youkidearitai <youkidearitai@gmail.com>:

2025年6月30日(月) 18:49 Derick Rethans <derick@php.net>:
>
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2025, youkidearitai wrote:
>
> > Hi, Internals
> >
> > I have just started add locale for grapheme_* functions.
> > PHP: rfc:grapheme_add_locale_for_case_insensitive
> >
> > Voting end is 2025-07-15 00:00:00 GMT.
>
> Hi,
>
> I have voted no for now, as I don't think the RFC explains a various
> amount of situations:
>
> - How are locale string handled that don't exist (exception? silently
> ignored?)
> - What range of locales are allowed? Where would this list come from?
> - How do fallbacks of locales work?
> - Are locale variants handled?
> - Is it really wise to use strings for locales?
> - How are locale strenghts handled, such as the
> primary/secondary/tertiary modes of ICU — these influence the
> matchy-ness of characters.
>
> For all these situations, there should also be tests, but that's an
> implementation detail.
>
> cheers,
> Derick
>
> --
> https://derickrethans.nl | https://xdebug.org | https://dram.io
>
> Author of Xdebug. Like it? Consider supporting me: Xdebug: Support
>
> mastodon: @derickr@phpc.social @xdebug@phpc.social

Hi, Derick and Internals

Thanks for feedback.
I got it.

However, Why didn't you take part in the under discussion phase?
I would like to improve the compatibility of PHP's Unicode.

Am I not eligible to participate?
I feel giant walls to Internals.from east asia.

Regards
Yuya

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- youkidearitai (tekimen) · GitHub
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Hi, Internals

I am wrong signature for the RFC.
I want go to stop "Voting" phase and moving back to "Under Discussion".
I'll fix this RFC.

Please give me a time.
Thanks a lot pointing to me.
Regards

Yuya

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